Paula – I bought this Outback bag for a song – did I do good?

Hi Paula!

I really appreciate and enjoyed learning about D&B bags looking at your site. It is very helpful and informative, thank you!
I am writing because I recently purchased a bag which appears to be a Medium Double Pocket Outback bag. I got it for a song so am of course skeptical. I am no bag expert but with the help of your site I was able to deduce the name of the bag. I also compared it to the checklists for authenticity and it came out pretty well. I do not have the fob but the accents (brass, stitching, etc.) and material seem correct. The ducks eye has a rather small looking pupil though, and I the interior pockets (there are the correct number of them) are not made of leather. The interior zipper pull is Talon brand as well, not the ‘riri’. The interior sticker says R35 ST 80394346 and the bag is tan on tan.
I would very much appreciate any help you could offer at authenticating the bag. I think its a real stumper!
Thanks for all that you do,
Sasha
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Paula,

Thank you for taking the time to look at this bag. Please let me know if additional pictures would help you discern the bag’s quality. I bought this bag at a thrift store and am hoping that I found an amazing deal. Thanks again!!
-Sasha
Hi Sahsa,
You did good girl !! This is indeed authentic and a highly coveted model plus it is in a color that usually shows its wear – yours looks in pretty darn good shape.
You wondered about the interior pockets – you thought they should be made of leather. Actually most Dooneys have this type of snap, zip, credit card pocket combos and they are made from a Dooney & Bourke proprietary fabric-backed vinyl with a grain texture to look like leather. So you are OK there.
The riri zipper is only on certain models – your zipper for your interior pocket is fine.
The fact that the fob is missing is not such a big deal. What’s great is that the tag is there and unsnipped.  And it still has the sticker on the back side of the pocket.
The R35 is the model number and the ST stands for Saddle Tan. At first when you look at your bag you might think “All British Tan” but on closer examination, you can see that the British Tan Trim is a lighter color than the AWL of the main body of the purse. So your bag has the R designation which means a color of AWL (in this case Saddle Tan) with British Tan trim.
Here’s a similar bag we sold that you can click on to see all the specs.
354-outback-double-med-bonebt-frontThere was a line of 6 Outback bags, each with the characteristic molded front pocket (or pockets) and the turned solid brass toggle and braided leather cord loop. Here is the R34 Medium Single Pocket.
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Enjoy your great find !! Paula

What kind of Dooney & Bourke questions do we answer on this blog? Do we sell on eBay?

We are passionate about vintage All Weather Leather Made in the USA Dooney & Bourke handbags, wallets and other items which we sell in the Dooney section of our website. We do not sell on eBay – just on our own website.

Therefore, if you have a question about a vintage AWL item, we would be happy to post your question on this blog with our answer.  We get many questions each week so I have created some general replies in response to your questions. When you write, you’ll likely get a form reply just to save us all time.

The types of questions we WILL answer include:

1.  If you wonder if an AWL bag you own is authentic. We will not appraise the bag or give you a value for it. But we usually can authenticate a bag from 3-5 good photos: an overall photo of the front and back showing the strap, an interior shot, a picture of the bottom, a picture of any tags. You can use a listing on our website for photo guidance.

For example: this small Essex – click on it and you will see some photo ideas

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2. If you own a bag and you are thinking of listing it on eBay or etsy or somewhere else…….and you wonder if it is authentic before you list it,….write us. (We particularly love to help here to prevent people from selling/buying counterfeit Dooney items – eBay is flooded with them and in spite of us writing many sellers personally and/or reporting the counterfeit items to eBay, there is nothing done about it. So buyer beware on eBay !!!)

BY THE WAY – we do not sell on eBay so if you ever see a bag with a listing that looks like one of our web pages, complete with our copyrighted chart and info, please know that it is someone who has illegally copied and pasted our material to use for their eBay listing. If you would write me with either the item number or the URL when you see something like that, I would greatly appreciate it !! Here is our contact page

The types of questions we DO NOT answer are questions related to:

1. A bag you want to buy on eBay or etsy or another internet site (we don’t want to get entangled between you and a seller PLUS we have a Dooney store where we sell authentic bags !)

2. Fabric bags

3. Leather bags that are not All Weather Leather.

4. Questions related to “what’s my bag worth”. Putting a value on a bag we can’t see, hold, and sniff is just impossible.

There is nothing like a vintage All Weather Leather Dooney & Bourke handbag. Once you have owned one and see the quality of materials and workmanship, it is hard to choose anything else.

Here is one of my personal bags – a solid black large Horseshoe bag – that goes to town with me every time.

Black Horseshoe Dooney & Bourke

Paula

Dooney & Bourke Zipper Clutch R20

Hello! I just found your wonderful website and blog, and am hoping you can help me identify my Dooney & Bourke bag. It was a gift in the 1980s, and it looks very similar to the vintage Zipper Clutch you have on your site. It is all-weather leather, black and tan, with a “Dooney & Bourke, Inc. Made in U.S.A.” tag inside, with the number A1759857 on the other side of the tag. It has a outer pocket/sleeve on each side. I haven’t used it for years, and in cleaning out my closet, came across it and got curious about it. If you have time, may I send you photos?
Thank you,
Pamela

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Thank you! I know how busy you are, and I appreciate it.
Pertinent details:
1. Bag was received as a gift in the late 1980s (I’m too old to remember exact year!).
2. Bag is black and tan, all-weather leather (black leather is pebbled, tan is smooth).
3. Bag dimensions are approx. 10 3/4 inches long x 7 inches tall x 2 1/2 inches deep (measuring across bottom).
4. Bag has a metal zipper (pull tab on zipper says “Dooney & Bourke”), two outer pockets/sleeves (one on each side), two inside pockets/sleeves (one zippered with a metal zipper; the other open but with a leather tab that closes over a metal button).
5. The strap is quite long and attaches on each side of the purse to brass D-rings; the straps are removable.
6. Hardware – the zippers (inner and outer) are metal, and the purse hardware is brass; there is a fob with the duck logo that says “Dooney & Bourke All-Weather Leather,” and the grommets or rivets that attach the straps to the body of the purse also say (very tiny) “Dooney Bourke.”
7. Label – the label says “Dooney & Bourke, Inc. Made In U.S.A.” (label itself is white-ish, letters are blue, and they are surrounded by a red border); the back of the label says A1759857.
Any info. you can provide would be great and most appreciated!
Thanks,
Pam

Hi Pam,

Yes this is an authentic Zipper Clutch R20 and in great shape !

Paula

Dooney & Bourke Loden Toggle Handbag

Hi Paula,
I recently purchased a Dooney and Bourke from Goodwill for $10 and wondered if you might be able to help me figure out if it’s authentic? It looks exactly like an authentic one I’ve seen on line but I still wonder about mine since I can’t find any info on the ID number when I put it into google. When I looked up the ID number that’s on the tag, nothing seems to come up for it. This makes me wonder if mine is a fake. I went ahead and took some pictures so you can compare with the the one on the site. Thanks a bunch for all your help. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks  Mrizza
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First of all, some interesting tid bits about the Loden bags. The word loden has several definitions.
  • Water-resistant material used for clothing, traditionally in Austria. It is made from sheep’s wool where the lanolin has not been removed.
  • A greyish green color typical of such garments as above.

So exactly what Dooney & Bourke had in mind, we can only guess. The bags are water resistant and some are kind of a greyish green, but not all.

Your bag is part of the Outback and Loden Collection. They are grouped together since they both have the signature brass toggle and braided loop closure.

The Loden bags don’t appear in many of the vintage catalogs, so they must have had a short life.

Yours is a Loden Shoulder Bag R87

9″ tall x 11 /4″ wide x 3 1/2″ deep.

It retailed for $275 in 1996.

As far as the number on the back of your tag that were entering in google. That is your bag’s individual registration number. So you would not find it on the internet.

Enjoy your great find !

To see more wonderful vintage Dooney & Bourke handbags and accessories, visit our store at. Horsekeeping Vintage Dooneys

Paula

Can you help me date this Dooney & Bourke bag?

Hi Paula,

I’ve been reading your website and hoping you could help me. I purchased a vintage Dooney and while I’m confident it’s authentic, I’m hoping to try to find a date for it. It is an all-brown A6 zip top shoulder bag and in impeccable condition!! I’ve read a few articles, specifically about the zipper, that lead me to believe it’s rarer than some others of the same style.

The zipper is a small round zipper, circular with a hole in the middle, and reads “riri.” I can’t find a date of production but I found an article stating these bags are rare. Can you confirm that?

The inner tag reads A6 254983 on the underside and I was also hoping you could help me date it using the numbers.

Thank you in advance,

Brooke

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First of all, I have never heard of a Dooney & Bourke bag with the number A6.

Nor of one with the name “Zip Top Shoulder Bag”. Dooney & Bourke names are very specific and while there are Zip-Top bags and Shoulder Satchels, I don’t know of a “Zip Top Shoulder Bag”.  If you could provide the source for your information, it would be interesting.

Your “all brown” bag has the official Dooney & Bourke color designations of

Saddle Tan with British Tan trim.

Your bag is an R719 Vintage Zipper Case. This bag first appeared in 1996 as far as I know. It had a name change to Large Zip-Top (keeping the same number) sometime between 1996-1999. Here is an example of a bag just like yours. You can click on the photo to see all details.

770-R719-ziptop-bonebt-1As far as zippers, the riri zippers are made with heavy metal teeth and tabs and the only R719 bags I have seen have all had the metal riri zipper. Similar Dooney bags, such as the Classic Zip Top, do have plastic zippers.  Can you provide the URL for the article about the rarity of the metal zippers – it might be interesting to other Dooney enthusiasts.

As far as the date of manufacture, your bag is part of the “Vintage Collection” which first appears in my Holiday 1996 catalog. It might have been released before then but not before Summer 1994. It does not appear in the Summer 1994 catalog or any catalogs prior to that date. The Summer 1994 only shows the Classic Zip Top bags with the duck seal sewn onto the bag in the conventional fashion like this. Click on this photo to see more about the Classic Zip Top.

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If you want to find out when and where your bag was manufactured, using the registration number, you will need to contact Dooney & Bourke customer service. Depending on who you get on the phone, you may or may not find the answer to your question. When I call, I get the feeling the employees are better versed in the new bags being made in China than the vintage bags. Some don’t seem to know how to access the historic databases.

Their website is Dooney & Bourke where you will find their contact information.

Best of luck in your further research and please share anything you find.

And YES, you got a GREAT bag!!!

Paula

Paula

What is this little Dooney & Bourke bag called?

Hi Paula,

I recently picked up an AWL Dooney & Bourke purse in what I think is pretty good shape. It caught my eye at the thrift store on half price day, plus it has all of the identifiers of a legitimate D&B AWL. You seem like a very knowledgeable person and I’d love it if I could send you some pictures so that you could take a look and maybe tell me some more about it? At any rate, your website already helped me to know what to look for when I was deciding whether or not to buy it.

Thanks,
Kate

picture128 picture160 picture161 picture164 Hi Kate,

Your cute little Dooney & Bourke bag is called “The Little Bag” R133 and is indeed authentic.

6 1/2″ tall by 6 1/2″ wide and 2 1/5″ deep at the base.

Although the shoulder strap is adjustable, it is not removable like most other Dooney & Bourke vintage All Weather Leather bags.

It has one slip pocket on the inside and one on the outside on the back.

Brass arrowhead push button closure on the front.

The original retail price of this bag was $98.

Made in the USA – yeah !!!

Yours looks in good condition and has a nice FOB and unsnipped tag. Way to go girl !

Paula

I bought this Dooney & Bourke bag at a thrift store – how much is it worth?

Hey

I just bought a Dooney and Bourke all weather leather handbag today at a thriftstore. I browsed your site and everything seems legit. I was wondering if you could tell me how much its worth. The serial number is a4 308883.
I attached some pictures.

Thank you and have a great day.

Cheyenne

IMG_20130418_180432 IMG_20130418_180441 IMG_20130418_180449 IMG_20130418_180454 IMG_20130418_180502 Hi Cheyenne,

The bag you bought is a P81 Mini Rectangular Surrey like this one.

609-surrey-minirect-bt-frontIt is 8 1/2 x 6 x 3 inches.

It cost $195 when new.

As far as current value, condition is everything. I didn’t see the condition of the shoulder strap and whether your bag had the brass duck FOB both of which would affect value. Since your bag has the stain on the front left corner and pen marks inside, if it were in our store, it would be rated a 6 and be put in the Grab Bag section. I’d expect your bag would bring about $20-30 on eBay if it had no odors of smoke, perfume or mustiness.

What is the Grab Bag section at www.horsekeeping.com ?

The Grab Bag is our Bargain Bin.

Some Grab Bags have all the Dooney & Bourke authenticating factors, others might be missing a FOB or a sewn in tag with serial number. To the best of our knowledge, each and every bag in this section is an authentic Dooney & Bourke handbag except, of course, for the other bags that are in our “NOT Dooney & Bourke” section.

In some cases, the red, white and blue interior tag has been snipped or cut out. We have been told that some outlet stores must do this to sell the purses at a greatly reduced price.

We also put bags here that have more wear or darkening than normal, but we point out all the defects and list them at a very low price. We hope you might find one for a refurbishing project or one that will work as an extra bag for the tack room of your horse trailer or for transporting those special bits or spurs to the show.

Although we have vacuumed the interiors of each bag, aired them, and given them a preliminary cleaning, Grab Bags sometimes need a thorough cleaning, which we will leave up to you.

But getting back to yours Cheyenne, it is a 100% authentic Dooney & Bourke All Weather Leather bag, Made in USA and with many years of good service left in it. Its value lies in its durability and usefulness.  And I’ll bet you got it at a bargain price.

Paula

Is this tote an authentic Dooney & Bourke handbag?

Hi Paula!

My mother purchased a what she thought was Dooney and Bourke hand bag some time ago for me. I have no idea if it is real and just want to see what you think about it. I know it said to not attach pictures without you asking for them, so if you would like to see pictures that would be great. After looking at your website I believe it fits in with handbags made in another country. The tag has Dooney & Bourke, INC. but no tag saying where it was made.

It would be great to find out if it is real!

Thanks!

Courtney

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Hi Courtney,

We contacted Dooney & Bourke about similar bags we have had in the store and here is what they told us.

“These are exclusive bags released to outlet stores such as Marshall’s and TJ Maxx and the bags ARE made in the USA. The leather label sewn on the back of the bag does say “MADE IN USA and if your bag still has a sticker on the back of the inside pocket, it will say Made in USA.”

Here is an example of a back pack we have in the store at this time.

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Would you check to see if there is a sticker on the back of the inside pocket? And tell me what it says……..also, if you could send a photo showing the entire inside of the bag. Just open it up empty and shoot an overhead photo. Thanks !

Paula

Added notes from Paula:

Courtney wrote to tell me that the rivets used on this bag are stamped Dooney & Bourke and sent me a photo of the inside pocket.

!cid_3AD03956-06CA-4A38-BEB5-AB94D69E8275So I looked through all of my catalogs and although I found that the Small and Medium Totes look a lot like this bag, there are a few things that don’t look the same.

Courtney’s bag is much narrower at the bottom that it is at the top. The totes in the Dooney catalogs are the same width top to bottom.

Also, I am not familiar with this style of inside pocket.

Courtney’s bag looks like it is made from a type of pebbled leather but the only totes that were similar to Courtney’s were made of smooth glove leather.

So I can not give a definite answer on this bag although my gut feeling is that it is made by Dooney & Bourke for a certain outlet such as mentioned in the beginning of this post.

If it is an authentic bag, it would likely be one of these:

Small Tote: 8″ tall x 7″ long x 4 1/2″ deep and sold for $135 in the early 2000s.

Medium Tote: 11″ tall x 10 1/2″ long x 6″ deep and sold for $175 in the early 2000s.

The closest we have had in our store is the Small Shopper in All Weather Leather. It does have some things in common with Courtney’s bag but it has many features that are different.

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Paula, Is this a real or fake Dooney & Bourke?

Message: Hi Paula, I love your website and blog. I was recently at a consignment shop and purchased this advertised Dooney and Bourke, AWL blue and tan XL travel bag. The zipper pull is metal, has a Dooney and Bourke makers mark on it…. There is no tag on the inside, and the DB mark is not on the oval tan label on the front of the bag. Is this an early DB? The bag also had the lock with it to secure the zipper locked during travel. It is in a Dooney and Bourke box and it has the Old Norwalk address……and it says the lock was made in China…………the pieces on the bag are brass,,,,,the bag was missing the strap(BOO) and there was a small mark inside the bag that shows a small spill. The bag is quite large….it measures 20″ x 14″ x 9 inches wide in the side panels.Can you please help me identify if this is a “real DB”…..
THANKS SO VERY MUCH.
Kim

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Hi Kim,

The dimensions you mention are similar to the Dooney Gladstone Duffel Bag R93 that sold for $775 in 1994………

Here is a previous blog about an authentic Gladstone Duffel.

I will point out some concerns I have about your bag.

I have never seen a Dooney oval with out the duck.

no duckThe stitching on the handle looks rough.

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The stitching overall is not up to Dooney quality and standards.

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However, there is the Dooney name on the zipper pull which is a positive.

db 5And the interior pocket looks correct which is often not duplicated by counterfeiters.

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So…………my opinion is that it COULD be a knock-off or authentic. If it is authentic, then it is an imperfect that was probably sold at an outlet store at a greatly reduced price. Often outlet stores remove or snip the inside tags so the bag can not be registered with Dooney & Bourke. Although it really bothers me that there is no duck seal on the bag, there are many other features about the bag that look authentic, so I’m leaning toward this having been a defective bag sold at an outlet store without registration tag.

If it were a knock off, most counterfeiters would for sure have added a leather duck seal, so it seems more like a “second” than a fake.

Palomino and British Tan All Weather Leather Pocket Binocular Bag from the Equestrian Collection

This darling little bag is unique in several ways.

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First of all, it is part of the Equestrian Collection, thus it has the trademark front closure.

It is unique for its extra front pocket, thus the “Pocket” in its name.

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It is small and square like it would be perfect for a pair of binoculars – thus “Binocular”.

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And this particular one is in the rare and beautiful Palomino color.

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This is a Palomino and British Tan Pocket Binocular Bag R124.

As always, I hope these blogs are helpful and interesting to other aficionados of vintage All Weather Leather, made in the USA, Dooney & Bourke bags.

Paula