Hi Paula,
I’ve been reading your website and hoping you could help me. I purchased a vintage Dooney and while I’m confident it’s authentic, I’m hoping to try to find a date for it. It is an all-brown A6 zip top shoulder bag and in impeccable condition!! I’ve read a few articles, specifically about the zipper, that lead me to believe it’s rarer than some others of the same style.
The zipper is a small round zipper, circular with a hole in the middle, and reads “riri.” I can’t find a date of production but I found an article stating these bags are rare. Can you confirm that?
The inner tag reads A6 254983 on the underside and I was also hoping you could help me date it using the numbers.
Thank you in advance,
Brooke
First of all, I have never heard of a Dooney & Bourke bag with the number A6.
Nor of one with the name “Zip Top Shoulder Bag”. Dooney & Bourke names are very specific and while there are Zip-Top bags and Shoulder Satchels, I don’t know of a “Zip Top Shoulder Bag”. If you could provide the source for your information, it would be interesting.
Your “all brown” bag has the official Dooney & Bourke color designations of
Saddle Tan with British Tan trim.
Your bag is an R719 Vintage Zipper Case. This bag first appeared in 1996 as far as I know. It had a name change to Large Zip-Top (keeping the same number) sometime between 1996-1999. Here is an example of a bag just like yours. You can click on the photo to see all details.
As far as zippers, the riri zippers are made with heavy metal teeth and tabs and the only R719 bags I have seen have all had the metal riri zipper. Similar Dooney bags, such as the Classic Zip Top, do have plastic zippers. Can you provide the URL for the article about the rarity of the metal zippers – it might be interesting to other Dooney enthusiasts.
As far as the date of manufacture, your bag is part of the “Vintage Collection” which first appears in my Holiday 1996 catalog. It might have been released before then but not before Summer 1994. It does not appear in the Summer 1994 catalog or any catalogs prior to that date. The Summer 1994 only shows the Classic Zip Top bags with the duck seal sewn onto the bag in the conventional fashion like this. Click on this photo to see more about the Classic Zip Top.
If you want to find out when and where your bag was manufactured, using the registration number, you will need to contact Dooney & Bourke customer service. Depending on who you get on the phone, you may or may not find the answer to your question. When I call, I get the feeling the employees are better versed in the new bags being made in China than the vintage bags. Some don’t seem to know how to access the historic databases.
Their website is Dooney & Bourke where you will find their contact information.
Best of luck in your further research and please share anything you find.
And YES, you got a GREAT bag!!!
Paula
Paula
Paula, thank you so much for clarifying the details of my bag!
The article that mentioned the rarity of the bags with the hole in the zipper pull is listed below. While I’m sure some or most of the information is correct, I trust your assessment over the info listed in the eBay guide. The part about the zipper is at the very bottom under number 19. I’m not sure how correct that is, though. http://www.ebay.com/gds/Dooney-amp-Bourke-Authenticity-Checklist-by-Grandpa913/10000000000893321/g.html
Thanks again for evaluating it for me! It’s greatly appreciated!
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You are highly welcome Brooke ! I remember reading that article by Grandpa913 quite a few years ago. I think I might comment on some of his points in a future blog. Thanks for reminding me of his post on eBay.
Paula
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do you have copies of the articles that used to be on ebay about dooneys, I would love to see them again, they have been taken down
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No I do not, but I have posted a lot of info here including pages from some catalogs………Paula
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I have this same bag (mine is navy leather with camel color leather trim) which I purchased new from the department store in the mid-90s. I can’t remember the exact year, but it was likely late ’96 or early ’97. Mine also has the zipper pull with the hole that says riri. The number in my bag also starts with the A6. I don’t have any other info on it, but I know mine is definitely authentic.
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I found a Dooney&bourke I want to buy it but want to make sure it’s real be for I buy it the no A71193 .I hope u can help me thank u
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